Bryn and Brent in the gallery






[2010/04/27 17:46] Brent Afterthought: is it ok to use this conversation for educational purposes?
[2010/04/27 17:47] Bryn Dexler: yeah
[2010/04/27 17:47] Bryn Dexler: if it's any use to you
[2010/04/27 17:47] Bryn Dexler: um
[2010/04/27 17:47] Brent Afterthought: /me smiles
[2010/04/27 17:47] Brent Afterthought: thanks
[2010/04/27 17:48] Brent Afterthought: do you want to give any RL biographical information?
[2010/04/27 17:48] Bryn Dexler: er no - do you want any
[2010/04/27 17:48] Brent Afterthought: no
[2010/04/27 17:48] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 17:48] Brent Afterthought: are you stoned?
[2010/04/27 17:48] Bryn Dexler: lol
[2010/04/27 17:48] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 17:48] Bryn Dexler: no
[2010/04/27 17:48] Bryn Dexler: are you
[2010/04/27 17:48] Bryn Dexler: should i be?
[2010/04/27 17:49] Brent Afterthought: drunk a bit... on box wine
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: goon
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: classy
[2010/04/27 17:49] Brent Afterthought: yah...
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: Aussies love the stuff
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: now
[2010/04/27 17:49] Brent Afterthought: i want to talk about this work
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: let's roll
[2010/04/27 17:49] Bryn Dexler: ok
[2010/04/27 17:49] Brent Afterthought: ok
[2010/04/27 17:49] Brent Afterthought: what do you see?
[2010/04/27 17:50] Bryn Dexler: first one - chicki with pink hair?
[2010/04/27 17:50] Bryn Dexler: yes?
[2010/04/27 17:50] Bryn Dexler: or the one next to it
[2010/04/27 17:50] Brent Afterthought: as interlocutor, i am not here to judge... just to record and contemplate...
[2010/04/27 17:51] Brent Afterthought: this not a test
[2010/04/27 17:51] Brent Afterthought: no right or wrong answers
[2010/04/27 17:51] Brent Afterthought: whatever you say is right....
[2010/04/27 17:51] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 17:51] Bryn Dexler: ok
[2010/04/27 17:51] Bryn Dexler: well
[2010/04/27 17:51] Brent Afterthought: i see a chick with pink hair too...
[2010/04/27 17:51] Brent Afterthought: what else?
[2010/04/27 17:51] Bryn Dexler: i see what looks like a child like animation
[2010/04/27 17:52] Bryn Dexler: but with gleaming sexed up features
[2010/04/27 17:52] Bryn Dexler: like she's in an fhm mag
[2010/04/27 17:52] Brent Afterthought: can you walk to that image?
[2010/04/27 17:52] Bryn Dexler: walk to it
[2010/04/27 17:52] Brent Afterthought: this one?
[2010/04/27 17:52] Brent Afterthought: the one above us?
[2010/04/27 17:52] Bryn Dexler: i'm at it
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: what is a fhm mag?
[2010/04/27 17:53] Bryn Dexler: oh
[2010/04/27 17:53] Bryn Dexler: like sports models
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: ahh
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: good
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: what else
[2010/04/27 17:53] Bryn Dexler: and she's shooting milk out of her breast
[2010/04/27 17:53] Bryn Dexler: which implies motherhood of sorts
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 17:53] Bryn Dexler: but she looks like a child
[2010/04/27 17:53] Brent Afterthought: this is actually a life size statue...
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: and nothing like what one would assume a lactating mother would appear to be like
[2010/04/27 17:54] Brent Afterthought: she does look like a child...
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: ahhhh
[2010/04/27 17:54] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 17:54] Brent Afterthought: good
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: it's like a melding of all these understandings and assumptions of womanhood
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: mother
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: child
[2010/04/27 17:54] Brent Afterthought: nice...
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: sex
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: all together
[2010/04/27 17:54] Brent Afterthought: sex?
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: her glistening body
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: breasts
[2010/04/27 17:54] Bryn Dexler: nakedness
[2010/04/27 17:55] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 17:55] Bryn Dexler: like bodies in magazines
[2010/04/27 17:55] Brent Afterthought: how does that make you feel?
[2010/04/27 17:55] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 17:56] Bryn Dexler: it kind of is a confusing image at first
[2010/04/27 17:56] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 17:56] Bryn Dexler: confusing is not the right word - but it's 2am in the morning lol
[2010/04/27 17:56] Bryn Dexler: confronting even
[2010/04/27 17:56] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 17:56] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 17:56] Brent Afterthought: conflict?
[2010/04/27 17:56] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 17:57] Bryn Dexler: well that's it isn't it - it's conflicting social constructions of what it is to be a girl/woman
[2010/04/27 17:57] Bryn Dexler: perhaps
[2010/04/27 17:58] Brent Afterthought: i like that...
[2010/04/27 17:58] Brent Afterthought: the conflict to which you refer...
[2010/04/27 17:58] Brent Afterthought: do you see that as a personal conflict, or one that the character in the image is exploring?
[2010/04/27 17:59] Bryn Dexler: well it's my assumptions based on my constructions of what women are
[2010/04/27 17:59] Bryn Dexler: so must be personal
[2010/04/27 17:59] Brent Afterthought: ok
[2010/04/27 17:59] Bryn Dexler: at the same time
[2010/04/27 17:59] Bryn Dexler: surely these are wide held assumptions
[2010/04/27 18:00] Bryn Dexler: so perhaps the image is seeking to explore that also
[2010/04/27 18:00] Brent Afterthought: what specific things in the image initiate this idea?
[2010/04/27 18:00] Bryn Dexler: the conflict?
[2010/04/27 18:00] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:01] Bryn Dexler: i worry about exposing my backwater assumptions lol
[2010/04/27 18:01] Bryn Dexler: but
[2010/04/27 18:04] Bryn Dexler: milk for motherhood, body for sex, face of child/innocence. In my head all different things.
[2010/04/27 18:04] Brent Afterthought: your assumptions are anything but backwater...
[2010/04/27 18:05] Brent Afterthought: are you a mother?
[2010/04/27 18:05] Bryn Dexler: no
[2010/04/27 18:05] Brent Afterthought: are you educated formally?
[2010/04/27 18:05] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:05] Brent Afterthought: (in the arts)
[2010/04/27 18:05] Bryn Dexler: oo no
[2010/04/27 18:05] Bryn Dexler: no these are my idle uneducated musings
[2010/04/27 18:06] Brent Afterthought: well, if its true you are uneducated formally in the arts, do you think you have the right to make such comments?
[2010/04/27 18:06] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:06] Brent Afterthought: why?
[2010/04/27 18:06] Bryn Dexler: art is about perception
[2010/04/27 18:06] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:06] Bryn Dexler: everyone is able to perceive
[2010/04/27 18:06] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:06] Brent Afterthought: what about gender here?
[2010/04/27 18:07] Bryn Dexler: in the image?
[2010/04/27 18:07] Brent Afterthought: well...
[2010/04/27 18:08] Brent Afterthought: my silly question, which i frame in a confrontational way, is: assuming your a woman in RL, do you think you have special insight into what this image might mean?
[2010/04/27 18:08] Bryn Dexler: no
[2010/04/27 18:08] Bryn Dexler: not at all
[2010/04/27 18:08] Bryn Dexler: that's just what sprang to mind for me
[2010/04/27 18:08] Brent Afterthought: good...
[2010/04/27 18:08] Bryn Dexler: i have no more insight into this then the next person
[2010/04/27 18:09] Bryn Dexler: and what i see could be completely different from what you see
[2010/04/27 18:09] Brent Afterthought: all viewers are on an equal playing field with this kind of art?
[2010/04/27 18:09] Bryn Dexler: no
[2010/04/27 18:09] Brent Afterthought: explain
[2010/04/27 18:09] Bryn Dexler: some would have more insight into what they are looking at
[2010/04/27 18:09] Bryn Dexler: yes we are all able to perceive, but some have appropriate training in analysis
[2010/04/27 18:10] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:10] Brent Afterthought: i think this work has something to do with anime culture...
[2010/04/27 18:10] Brent Afterthought: which i don't know about actually
[2010/04/27 18:10] Bryn Dexler: either do i lol
[2010/04/27 18:10] Bryn Dexler: what do you see?
[2010/04/27 18:10] Brent Afterthought: i think it has to do with sex too
[2010/04/27 18:10] Bryn Dexler: tell
[2010/04/27 18:11] Brent Afterthought: which i do have some familiarity with
[2010/04/27 18:11] Brent Afterthought: smiles
[2010/04/27 18:11] Brent Afterthought: well
[2010/04/27 18:11] Brent Afterthought: i see conflict
[2010/04/27 18:11] Bryn Dexler: you see male as well?
[2010/04/27 18:11] Bryn Dexler: what
[2010/04/27 18:11] Bryn Dexler: conflict
[2010/04/27 18:11] Brent Afterthought: i think i see as a male, yes
[2010/04/27 18:11] Bryn Dexler: likewise
[2010/04/27 18:11] Bryn Dexler: tell
[2010/04/27 18:12] Brent Afterthought: i see stereotypes about women and sexuality caricatured
[2010/04/27 18:12] Bryn Dexler: mmhmm
[2010/04/27 18:12] Brent Afterthought: in kind of a funny way, that is not funny actually...
[2010/04/27 18:12] Brent Afterthought: not in this piece so much, but in others
[2010/04/27 18:12] Bryn Dexler: i think it's meant to confront us in that respect, and our assumptions
[2010/04/27 18:12] Bryn Dexler: no?
[2010/04/27 18:13] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:13] Brent Afterthought: i agree
[2010/04/27 18:13] Brent Afterthought: are there any other images that confront you in this way?
[2010/04/27 18:13] Bryn Dexler: in here?
[2010/04/27 18:13] Brent Afterthought: yah
[2010/04/27 18:13] Bryn Dexler: this room?
[2010/04/27 18:13] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:14] Bryn Dexler: i find alot of them a little confronting
[2010/04/27 18:14] Brent Afterthought: let's talk about one more, if your not too tired
[2010/04/27 18:14] Bryn Dexler: sure
[2010/04/27 18:14] Bryn Dexler: go for it
[2010/04/27 18:14] Brent Afterthought: i am following you sister
[2010/04/27 18:14] Bryn Dexler: oh lol
[2010/04/27 18:14] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 18:16] Bryn Dexler: hmmm
[2010/04/27 18:16] Bryn Dexler: i hate choosing
[2010/04/27 18:17] Brent Afterthought: hell for you is a box of chocolates
[2010/04/27 18:17] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:17] Brent Afterthought: suffer then
[2010/04/27 18:17] Bryn Dexler: no there's no choosing there i take all
[2010/04/27 18:17] Brent Afterthought: me too!
[2010/04/27 18:17] Bryn Dexler: how kind of you
[2010/04/27 18:17] Brent Afterthought: no problem
[2010/04/27 18:17] Brent Afterthought: my professor will think i am a rude and uncaring asshole
[2010/04/27 18:18] Bryn Dexler: he'd be correct
[2010/04/27 18:18] Brent Afterthought: for talking to you that way
[2010/04/27 18:18] Brent Afterthought: i would argue
[2010/04/27 18:18] Brent Afterthought: that it is part of our dynamic
[2010/04/27 18:18] Bryn Dexler: hmmm
[2010/04/27 18:18] Bryn Dexler: would you?
[2010/04/27 18:18] Bryn Dexler: is it?
[2010/04/27 18:18] Brent Afterthought: me telling you to suffer?
[2010/04/27 18:18] Bryn Dexler: mmhmm
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: well...
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: i say it, but i do so in a sarcastic way
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: i don't actually want you to suffer
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: if i did
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: i don't think i would just say: suffer then
[2010/04/27 18:19] Brent Afterthought: i say it in part
[2010/04/27 18:20] Brent Afterthought: cause i know you are a rebellious person
[2010/04/27 18:20] Brent Afterthought: and you rebelling against my silliness...
[2010/04/27 18:20] Brent Afterthought: may in some ways be empowering to you
[2010/04/27 18:20] Bryn Dexler: you make me laugh
[2010/04/27 18:20] Brent Afterthought: you make me smile
[2010/04/27 18:20] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 18:21] Brent Afterthought: suffering...
[2010/04/27 18:21] Bryn Dexler: mm smile suffering
[2010/04/27 18:21] Bryn Dexler: suffering smiles
[2010/04/27 18:21] Brent Afterthought: there is alot of going on in these images no?
[2010/04/27 18:21] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:21] Brent Afterthought: what kind of suffering?
[2010/04/27 18:22] Bryn Dexler: in the pictures?
[2010/04/27 18:22] Brent Afterthought: let's look at the Nara piece...
[2010/04/27 18:22] Bryn Dexler: ok
[2010/04/27 18:22] Brent Afterthought: this is a painting
[2010/04/27 18:22] Brent Afterthought: in rl
[2010/04/27 18:23] Brent Afterthought: i think it is about 5x6 feet
[2010/04/27 18:23] Brent Afterthought: its big
[2010/04/27 18:23] Brent Afterthought: is there suffering in here?
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: it doesn't look very pleased
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: it looks irritated
[2010/04/27 18:23] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: frustrated
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: fed up
[2010/04/27 18:23] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: suffering of sorts
[2010/04/27 18:23] Bryn Dexler: uncomfortable
[2010/04/27 18:24] Brent Afterthought: what part in particular makes you feel that?
[2010/04/27 18:24] Bryn Dexler: stance
[2010/04/27 18:24] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:24] Bryn Dexler: mouth
[2010/04/27 18:24] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:24] Bryn Dexler: fist
[2010/04/27 18:24] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:24] Bryn Dexler: body
[2010/04/27 18:25] Bryn Dexler: um
[2010/04/27 18:25] Brent Afterthought: color?
[2010/04/27 18:25] Bryn Dexler: hmmm
[2010/04/27 18:26] Bryn Dexler: i find the colours a tad gawdy and grotesque together
[2010/04/27 18:26] Bryn Dexler: but that's just personal tastes
[2010/04/27 18:26] Brent Afterthought: i like your personal tastes
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: and isolated and alone it looks
[2010/04/27 18:27] Brent Afterthought: i find the colors 'cute'
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: hmm - really?
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: they look dated
[2010/04/27 18:27] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: she's in a sea of fifties blue
[2010/04/27 18:27] Brent Afterthought: they look cartoonish
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: like from old story books
[2010/04/27 18:27] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 18:27] Bryn Dexler: your grandmother would have
[2010/04/27 18:27] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 18:28] Brent Afterthought: do they match with the ideas you talked about before?
[2010/04/27 18:29] Bryn Dexler: ummm
[2010/04/27 18:29] Bryn Dexler: as in stereotypical woman?
[2010/04/27 18:29] Bryn Dexler: features?
[2010/04/27 18:29] Brent Afterthought: well..
[2010/04/27 18:29] Brent Afterthought: i was referring to the way you described the image first off
[2010/04/27 18:30] Brent Afterthought: the things you refereed to
[2010/04/27 18:30] Brent Afterthought: mostly had to do with the character him/herself
[2010/04/27 18:30] Brent Afterthought: you paused when i asked if color was sending you the same message
[2010/04/27 18:30] Brent Afterthought: for me...
[2010/04/27 18:30] Brent Afterthought: the message is different
[2010/04/27 18:31] Bryn Dexler: hmmm
[2010/04/27 18:31] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:31] Bryn Dexler: this more challenges images of perfection
[2010/04/27 18:32] Bryn Dexler: maybe?
[2010/04/27 18:32] Bryn Dexler: this is far from an image of stereotypical perfect person
[2010/04/27 18:33] Bryn Dexler: it's proportions border on commercially grotesque
[2010/04/27 18:33] Bryn Dexler: although that's a bit of a harsh word for it
[2010/04/27 18:33] Bryn Dexler: and she looks unhappy
[2010/04/27 18:33] Bryn Dexler: omg this is just my insecurities spewing forth lol
[2010/04/27 18:34] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 18:34] Brent Afterthought: mine too
[2010/04/27 18:34] Brent Afterthought: the images bother me
[2010/04/27 18:34] Brent Afterthought: trouble me
[2010/04/27 18:34] Bryn Dexler: i think it makes you think about what our perceptions are of women, and have we any right to assume one is better than the other, one is less of a person than the other
[2010/04/27 18:34] Bryn Dexler: why does this one have to look unhappy
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: why are we bothered when we look at it
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: why do they trouble you
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: i'm off on a tangent
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: it's also child like
[2010/04/27 18:35] Brent Afterthought: yes...
[2010/04/27 18:35] Brent Afterthought: child like
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: so i guess you could take that path and explore it
[2010/04/27 18:35] Brent Afterthought: that runs through a lot of this work
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: yeah
[2010/04/27 18:35] Bryn Dexler: true
[2010/04/27 18:36] Brent Afterthought: a lactating child
[2010/04/27 18:36] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:36] Brent Afterthought: to your left are smiling teens committing ritual suicide
[2010/04/27 18:36] Bryn Dexler: yes
[2010/04/27 18:37] Brent Afterthought: i think we arrive at one of the important dimensions of this work...
[2010/04/27 18:37] Brent Afterthought: the questions that it raises... the ones you so eloquently articulated just now
[2010/04/27 18:37] Brent Afterthought: do the questions have answers?
[2010/04/27 18:38] Bryn Dexler: all questions have answers i guess
[2010/04/27 18:38] Bryn Dexler: we pick the ones we like
[2010/04/27 18:38] Brent Afterthought: i would disagree with you here
[2010/04/27 18:38] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 18:38] Bryn Dexler: why is that
[2010/04/27 18:39] Brent Afterthought: at best...
[2010/04/27 18:39] Brent Afterthought: the questions have ambiguous answers...
[2010/04/27 18:39] Brent Afterthought: personal ones
[2010/04/27 18:39] Bryn Dexler: ambiguous answers are answers none the less
[2010/04/27 18:39] Brent Afterthought: agreed...
[2010/04/27 18:40] Brent Afterthought: but, in my mind, the questions are staged in such a way as to subvert answers...
[2010/04/27 18:40] Bryn Dexler: well it's all about the right questions in the first place isn't it. And they could well be to subvert answers.
[2010/04/27 18:42] Brent Afterthought: well....
[2010/04/27 18:42] Brent Afterthought: i would disagree again
[2010/04/27 18:42] Brent Afterthought: because invariably, you as a woman, me as a man,
[2010/04/27 18:42] Brent Afterthought: you as a brit , me as an american
[2010/04/27 18:43] Brent Afterthought: you as young, me as washed up
[2010/04/27 18:43] Bryn Dexler: poppycock
[2010/04/27 18:43] Brent Afterthought: these things would lead us to different questions i suppose
[2010/04/27 18:44] Brent Afterthought: and i could never believe, or don't want to believe, that one set of questions is more valid than the other...
[2010/04/27 18:44] Bryn Dexler: hmmm... maybe
[2010/04/27 18:51] Brent Afterthought: hmm

[2010/04/27 18:53] Bryn Dexler: what else
[2010/04/27 18:53] Bryn Dexler: more questions
[2010/04/27 18:53] Bryn Dexler: what's the go
[2010/04/27 18:53] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 18:54] Brent Afterthought: i lost my train of thought
[2010/04/27 18:54] Bryn Dexler: i don't think i had one
[2010/04/27 18:54] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 18:54] Brent Afterthought: we were talking about questions.. some being more correct than others
[2010/04/27 18:54] Bryn Dexler: oh yeah
[2010/04/27 18:54] Bryn Dexler: well i guess if art's about perception, and all are open to perceive, all questions and answers must be of some relevance
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: i think there are no correct ???'s or A's
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: yah
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: totally right?
[2010/04/27 18:55] Bryn Dexler: lol
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: but...
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: John Dewy
[2010/04/27 18:55] Brent Afterthought: a philosopher of education suggests
[2010/04/27 18:56] Brent Afterthought: that we can all look at a flower and lose our selves in its beauty...
[2010/04/27 18:56] Brent Afterthought: but to really know a flower.. you should understand soil. air, perhaps the history of the breed...
[2010/04/27 18:57] Bryn Dexler: well exactly. If you don't know what the fuck you're on about, your opinion, your view, what you see, what you understand, is hindered to an extent
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: full appreciation of what you are presented with isn't impossible, but i reckon it's kinda hindered
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: there's a multitude of things in these images i'm probably missing
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: but
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: i think with art
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: maybe
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: everyone's viewpoint is important
[2010/04/27 18:58] Bryn Dexler: it's purpose is to emote
[2010/04/27 18:59] Bryn Dexler: regardless of educational background (for most i'd imagine_
[2010/04/27 18:59] Bryn Dexler: feelings
[2010/04/27 18:59] Bryn Dexler: so whatever feelings are felt, by whoever, they're all relevant to an extent.
[2010/04/27 18:59] Bryn Dexler: even if they lack the skill with which to completely comprehend what they are analyzing
[2010/04/27 18:59] Brent Afterthought: how lovely and empowering those words are
[2010/04/27 19:00] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 19:00] Bryn Dexler: i don't know
[2010/04/27 19:00] Bryn Dexler: i guess it depends on who made the image, what their intention was.
[2010/04/27 19:00] Bryn Dexler: who they want to connect with
[2010/04/27 19:00] Bryn Dexler: but i just figure, in my limited understanding lol, that artists want all to feel their work
[2010/04/27 19:02] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 19:02] Bryn Dexler: yarrr
[2010/04/27 19:02] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 19:03] Brent Afterthought: the messages are 'clearly ambiguous' to me
[2010/04/27 19:03] Brent Afterthought: yes... i am educated in art
[2010/04/27 19:03] Brent Afterthought: i know about form
[2010/04/27 19:03] Brent Afterthought: but, i agree with you...
[2010/04/27 19:04] Brent Afterthought: all opinions and perceptions matter in some way
[2010/04/27 19:04] Brent Afterthought: i think artists want us to engage their work
[2010/04/27 19:04] Brent Afterthought: u think that is what we did tonight
[2010/04/27 19:04] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 19:04] Brent Afterthought: i learned some things about the work
[2010/04/27 19:05] Brent Afterthought: that i never knew
[2010/04/27 19:05] Brent Afterthought: also some things about you, and self
[2010/04/27 19:05] Brent Afterthought: all this through dialogue
[2010/04/27 19:05] Bryn Dexler: oo i don’t like the last bit
[2010/04/27 19:05] Bryn Dexler: but i guess it's inevitable maybe
[2010/04/27 19:06] Brent Afterthought: explain
[2010/04/27 19:06] Bryn Dexler: um
[2010/04/27 19:06] Bryn Dexler: i worry about exposing too much of myself to you - you see through me a bit
[2010/04/27 19:06] Bryn Dexler: anyway
[2010/04/27 19:07] Brent Afterthought: transparency is the new secrecy
[2010/04/27 19:07] Bryn Dexler: can you tell me what's really going on in the pictures next time?
[2010/04/27 19:07] Bryn Dexler: no
[2010/04/27 19:07] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 19:07] Brent Afterthought: i don't know!!!
[2010/04/27 19:07] Bryn Dexler: you do so
[2010/04/27 19:07] Brent Afterthought: no...
[2010/04/27 19:07] Bryn Dexler: then tell me your 'perceptions'
[2010/04/27 19:07] Brent Afterthought: i am an art educator... not an interpreter
[2010/04/27 19:08] Brent Afterthought: i want to learn
[2010/04/27 19:08] Bryn Dexler: i'm an art nothing - how come i had to interpret
[2010/04/27 19:08] Bryn Dexler: no fair
[2010/04/27 19:08] Brent Afterthought: and foster dialogue about art
[2010/04/27 19:08] Brent Afterthought: not shove meaning down someones throat
[2010/04/27 19:08] Bryn Dexler: i am an open vessel
[2010/04/27 19:08] Brent Afterthought: well
[2010/04/27 19:08] Brent Afterthought: i didn't want you to interpret
[2010/04/27 19:09] Brent Afterthought: i wanted to know about what you see and feel
[2010/04/27 19:09] Bryn Dexler: ah
[2010/04/27 19:09] Bryn Dexler: same diff
[2010/04/27 19:09] Brent Afterthought: bringing personal experience to art
[2010/04/27 19:09] Brent Afterthought: allows you to 'own' it i think
[2010/04/27 19:09] Brent Afterthought: someone telling you what the art means
[2010/04/27 19:09] Brent Afterthought: no
[2010/04/27 19:10] Bryn Dexler: it adds insight
[2010/04/27 19:10] Brent Afterthought: i am trying to move past that kind of hegemony
[2010/04/27 19:10] Brent Afterthought: well
[2010/04/27 19:10] Brent Afterthought: i did tell you a bit of my theory
[2010/04/27 19:10] Brent Afterthought: that the questions these images ask are subversive
[2010/04/27 19:11] Brent Afterthought: and i think so because of the disconnect between form and content...
[2010/04/27 19:11] Brent Afterthought: cartoon happy colors (you used grotesque) and anger
[2010/04/27 19:12] Brent Afterthought: in this image, coloring gook child lik ness juxtapozed against gore
[2010/04/27 19:12] Brent Afterthought: smiles and suicide...
[2010/04/27 19:12] Brent Afterthought: these are conflicts for me
[2010/04/27 19:12] Bryn Dexler: ahhh yes
[2010/04/27 19:13] Brent Afterthought: do you think i am smart ?
[2010/04/27 19:13] Bryn Dexler: no i think you're thick as a brick
[2010/04/27 19:13] Bryn Dexler: yes i think you're smart
[2010/04/27 19:13] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 19:14] Bryn Dexler: i feel intimidated by your intelligence - mostly because i forget about it and sprout off a big pile of rubbish
[2010/04/27 19:14] Bryn Dexler: only to remember later that you're smarter than i am
[2010/04/27 19:14] Brent Afterthought: lol
[2010/04/27 19:14] Brent Afterthought: so untrue its laughable
[2010/04/27 19:14] Brent Afterthought: in this gallery
[2010/04/27 19:14] Brent Afterthought: in sl
[2010/04/27 19:14] Brent Afterthought: in rl
[2010/04/27 19:15] Brent Afterthought: i want to believe that we are ='s
[2010/04/27 19:15] Bryn Dexler: yes, i want to as well
[2010/04/27 19:15] Bryn Dexler: difference between wanting and having though
[2010/04/27 19:15] Brent Afterthought: mmm
[2010/04/27 19:15] Brent Afterthought: know what you mean though
[2010/04/27 19:15] Bryn Dexler: when i study art theory, i'll intelligence the pants off you
[2010/04/27 19:15] Brent Afterthought: i feel intimidated by my prof's
[2010/04/27 19:15] Bryn Dexler: yeah see?
[2010/04/27 19:15] Brent Afterthought: YAY
[2010/04/27 19:16] Brent Afterthought: i am waiting for that day!
[2010/04/27 19:16] Bryn Dexler: hahaha
[2010/04/27 19:16] Bryn Dexler: you'll probably die waiting my friend
[2010/04/27 19:16] Bryn Dexler: this image is grotesque too
[2010/04/27 19:16] Bryn Dexler: all of these images are grotesque
[2010/04/27 19:16] Brent Afterthought: i'll die with a smile on my face like the harikari school girls!
[2010/04/27 19:16] Bryn Dexler: hahahahaha
[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: can you give me a wink too like that one on the right?
[2010/04/27 19:17] Brent Afterthought: sure!
[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: ty
[2010/04/27 19:17] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: so when i have nightmares tonight about schoolgirls hacking themselves up
[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: you're to blame
[2010/04/27 19:17] Brent Afterthought: no..
[2010/04/27 19:17] Brent Afterthought: the artist




[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: even their wounds look like fun
[2010/04/27 19:17] Brent Afterthought: YES
[2010/04/27 19:17] Bryn Dexler: cheery blood spurt
[2010/04/27 19:18] Bryn Dexler: star disemboweling
[2010/04/27 19:18] Brent Afterthought: i want to keep talking..
[2010/04/27 19:18] Bryn Dexler: floral blood and bile spewing from that one at the bottom
[2010/04/27 19:18] Brent Afterthought: perhaps we can do a part 2 to this...
[2010/04/27 19:18] Brent Afterthought: a follow up
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: but my mind is fried
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: yeah i need sleep man
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: it's 3am
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: i need more wine
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: omg
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: well
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: best thoughts come now
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: lets talk again perhaps tomorrow
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: kk
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: after you have had time to sleep on it
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: ty so much for helping me here
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: i loved our chat
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: hmmm
[2010/04/27 19:19] Bryn Dexler: yw
[2010/04/27 19:19] Brent Afterthought: ;)
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: thanks for asking
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: i feel clever now
[2010/04/27 19:20] Brent Afterthought: yes
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: i'm gonna sleep
[2010/04/27 19:20] Brent Afterthought: art makes you smart!!
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: i'll catchya round
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: hmm
[2010/04/27 19:20] Brent Afterthought: ok
[2010/04/27 19:20] Brent Afterthought: good night lovely Bryn
[2010/04/27 19:20] Brent Afterthought: ;
[2010/04/27 19:20] Bryn Dexler: night
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